Discussion:
[VM] [Launchpad Question #108267]: stunnel on Windows
Alan Wehmann
2012-03-12 17:10:20 UTC
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Hi Uday,

Life used to be simple. Like when we had a few major television
networks and not a proliferation of hundreds of cable channels.

I used to go to Google and read gnu.emacs.help, comp.emacs,
gnu.emacs.vm.info and perhaps gnu.emacs.sources & comp.emacs.xemacs.
In those places I would find like-minded people and high quality
discussion--for the most part. Pre-dating Google groups, it was
Dejanews and before that it was actual newsfeeds, stored locally for
one's perusal (I was a Gnus user then). Now we have a proliferation
of discussion sites across the internet--similar to the proliferation
of cable television channels.

A person can try to stick to a few places with relevant and reasonable
quality content for the subject of interest & beyond that it is a
matter of trusting to the best-choice Internet search engine.

In the summer you recommended to VM users a move from Google group
gnu.emacs.vm.info to gmane.emacs.viewmail
(https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/viewmail-info). Now you
are bringing Stackoverflow into the mix. Are you recommending a move
from gmane.emacs.viewmail (viewmail-***@nongnu.org) to Stackoverflow?
It is now not clear to me what you would recommend go to
gmane.emacs.viewmail (viewmail-***@nongnu.org) and what you would
recommend go to Stackoverflow.

http://www.nongnu.org/viewmail/ says:

"The News groups gnu.emacs.vm.info and gnu.emacs.vm.bug are deprecated
and posting to them is not advisable. Please use the viewmail-info
mailing list for general discussion and the launchpad tracker for bug
reports instead."

What will that read like in the future, after including Stackoverflow
in the mix?

Cheers,
Alan
Subject: Re: [Question #108267]: stunnel on Windows
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:25:54 -0000
https://answers.launchpad.net/vm/+question/108267
I took a look at
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6008917/setup-for-gmail-in-emacs-vm
and see nothing there that is specific to using SMTP on Windows with
Emacs, which is one of the subjects of usr345's question. An answer for
Unix (or Linux) doesn't deal with the peculiarities of MS Windows. What
did I miss?
Then the user can ask the question there about how to get it to work on
Windows. The question can be tagged with "Windows", "Emacs", "gmail",
"starttls", "smtp" etc. and the people that monitor those tags will be able
to give better answers than we can.
More generally, stackoverflow has a much better infrastructure for questions
& answers than Launchpad does. So, I would like us to move there for
questions & answers.
Cheers,
Uday
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Uday Reddy
2012-03-14 15:13:02 UTC
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Post by Alan Wehmann
In the summer you recommended to VM users a move from Google group
gnu.emacs.vm.info to gmane.emacs.viewmail
(https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/viewmail-info). Now you
are bringing Stackoverflow into the mix. Are you recommending a move
It is now not clear to me what you would recommend go to
recommend go to Stackoverflow.
Dear Alan, As I mentioned to you in an earlier email, the viewmail-info
list is not affected. Only the Launchpad "answers" site will get
pointed to Stackoverflow. Stackoverflow has much better infrastructure
than Launchpad for questions & answers. Moreover, in contrast to
Launchpad, which nobody looks at other than the developers,
Stackoverflow is a public web site, and people with expertise with
various tools can provide answers. In the example that brought this
issue to the fore, the other tools involved include stunnel, gnutls,
cygwin, Emacs smtp etc.

Cheers,
Uday

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